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 Post subject: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:27 pm 
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*CARE* DO NOT USE THIS WITH A SENTELIC PAD (corners already scroll) It seems to stop the mouse working at all without a driver reinstall.

edited to include the driver directly

Original instructions

I can confirm this method works with *the Synaptic version of the* Wind and Leopard.

I don't have the config for the pad QUITE right. It seems to work best if you add the second finger *after* the first and then scroll with more pressure than you'd use for moving the cursor.

I post this so that people can post their improved configs. Hopefully we'll get to a perfect one.

Download the ALPS Glidepad Driver. Thanks to deamobile for creating this driver package (copied from the link above to make the instructions easier). Depending on settings, the driver installer may start automatically.
Download this zipfile (right click and select "download linked file".

Double Click the "Alps Glidepad Driver.pkg" and follow the instructions to install until it wants to reboot, and at this point open a terminal and type:
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cd /
sudo unzip ~/Downloads/windfix.zip
rm /System/Library/Extensions.mkext
cp /Library/Preferences/com.apple.driver.ApplePS2Trackpad.plist ~/Library/Preferences/

It will replace some files from the FFScroll package and flush the extensions cache to make it reload the right driver. Now you can click the reboot button.

After editing the preferences to tweak the settings, restart the FFScroll daemon with:

Code:
sudo /Library/StartupItems/FFScroll/FFScroll restart

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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:59 pm 
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I was just browsing around when I saw a link to this thread in your signature.

This is GREAT news. Two finger scrolling was one of the last things I was missing from my real mac. I'll play around with this and post the results here later.

Great work :)


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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:53 pm 
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careful. Check which trackpad you have. This will not work with the Sentelic pad, at least i couldn't make it work.

P.


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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:07 pm 
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paul jones wrote:
careful. Check which trackpad you have. This will not work with the Sentelic pad, at least i couldn't make it work.

P.


Although I initially posted that it was for Synaptic pads, I have made it clearer that this won't work for Sentelic - Does it actually make any difference for Sentelic pad users?

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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:25 pm 
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I've updated the zipfile (windfix.zip) in the original post with an updated file. Tap and Tap-Drag work for me now.


Faye

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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:28 pm 
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Well done!

I was wondering what type of trackpad I have, can someone please confirm.

Its an ADVENT 4211 (UK Version of the Wind) that has the normal scroll bars not the corner scroll thing.

Is this Synaptic or Sentelic?

Cheers

Sean


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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:30 pm 
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I started playing with this setup, but I gave up because work got in the way - and I didn't have the patience to try every set of settings on earth. But it look promising. I'll keep an eye on this thread, definitely!


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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:47 pm 
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I'm quite sure my wind has a synaptics pad. At least it has the scrollzone in the right side of the pad.

When I install the glidepad driver (the first step of the process) my trackpad simply stops responding and I have to use a usb mouse.

I can start FFScroll, but it doesn't change anything since there's no touchpad function. Am I overlooking something obvious?


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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:00 pm 
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Just experienced that on a friend's box.
Press Cmd-space (Alt Space on the Wind Keyboard, Alt is really on the Windows key) for spotlight, type terminal and press enter
A terminal should open. Type:
Code:
sudo rm /System/Library/Extensions.mkext
reboot

it should say it's rebuilding the caches, let it do it, then when it restarts it should be fine.

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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:30 pm 
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Faye wrote:
ust experienced that on a friend's box.
Press Cmd-space (Alt Space on the Wind Keyboard, Alt is really on the Windows key) for spotlight, type terminal and press enter
A terminal should open. Type:
Code:
sudo rm /System/Library/Extensions.mkext
reboot

it should say it's rebuilding the caches, let it do it, then when it restarts it should be fine.


Thanks a lot Faye. That solved the problem beatifully. Now I just need to tweak the settings so it doesn't start scrolling randomly. It's definitely closer than I've ever been :)

It seems like the pad doesn't really register how many fingers you have on the pad - it's the strength with which you press that determines if it moves or scrolls.


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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:22 am 
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Hi,

I downloaded the zip file and I does not contain the "Alps Glidepad Driver.pkg" file? Am I missing something here. could you please check the zip file or someone give me the "Alps Glidepad Driver.pkg" file. Thanks

@Faye

How'ss the OCZ Core 64Gb SSD doing for you. Does it get warm like the conventional HDD we have? Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:31 am 
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I'm just going around in the forum and I got a question.

The Msi wind supplied with 6 cell battery does have the Seneptic tpad.

The Msi wind supplied with 3 cell battery and 160 Gb HD has got the Synaptic trackpad ain't it?

Yes , U guess right , I'm going to save money for buying the msi and I would be sure to choose the right model

Thanks for ur time :)

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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:42 am 
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erwinquita wrote:
Hi,

I downloaded the zip file and it does not contain the "Alps Glidepad Driver.pkg" file?

The Driver was at the link to the original instructions, but now I've included the package inline to help people get it easier. You'll find it in the first post in this thread, I'm editing it so that hopefully it will get to a stage where it can be sticky.

erwinquita wrote:
How's the OCZ Core 64Gb SSD doing for you. Does it get warm like the conventional HDD we have? Thanks

The OCZ Core is the best upgrade I've made to the Medion. It doesn't significantly alter maximum battery time, but OSX starts in half the time it did on the HD and most apps open within a single bounce of the icon on the dock. It doesn't get hot as there are no moving parts and no heads to crash if you bump the netbook. I installed it with the original XP Home (starts completely in 17s) and with OS X before upgrading my BIOS, so I didn't have an AHCI setting to tweak. Now that I've upgraded the BIOS, if I turn off AHCI, I get BSOD, So I'm thinking it was fixed to on before.

Does that help you?


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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:26 am 
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Faye wrote:
The OCZ Core is the best upgrade I've made to the Medion. It doesn't significantly alter maximum battery time, but OSX starts in half the time it did on the HD and most apps open within a single bounce of the icon on the dock. It doesn't get hot as there are no moving parts and no heads to crash if you bump the netbook. I installed it with the original XP Home (starts completely in 17s) and with OS X before upgrading my BIOS, so I didn't have an AHCI setting to tweak. Now that I've upgraded the BIOS, if I turn off AHCI, I get BSOD, So I'm thinking it was fixed to on before.


Sounds great, I've been looking at this option with temptation... I'm off on holidays so who knows what will happen during that time - I'm curious about the Lenovo before I change anything with the MSi, though if I get a second one, I would love to be able to find a Synaptic and not and Sentelic. Do we know what's inside the clones? (Advent, Medion, etc)


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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:41 am 
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I think there's already a thread about what is best suited to OSX. To summarise what I know:

Existing Medion and Advent have Synaptic pads and 3 cell batteries.
Medion comes with a Realtek wireless card for which there is a driver for OS X but it's less than perfect in its implementation - you have to futz at sleep/wake/boot to rejoin networks. It also only supports 2.4GHz... how that's 'n', I don't know. That's why I replaced it with a Dell 1500 (1505?).
Advent comes with a wireless card which doesn't work in OS X at all.

Aldi in the UK are selling the Akoya Mini as of today for £279.99.

The Advent has a built in bluetooth, but I don't know if that's functional with OS X.


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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:46 am 
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Faye wrote:
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Existing Medion and Advent have Synaptic pads and 3 cell batteries....

Faye


Then u can confirm that specs even on the 160GB 3 cell version ?


msi wind I mean...

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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:55 am 
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I'll leave that to someone who has one.

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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
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Thanks Faye

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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:05 am 
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Maybe we should start a thread with serial numbers of our machines. Surely there is a pattern that shows if the Wind has a Sentelic or a Synaptic.


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 Post subject: Re: Two finger scrolling
PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:07 pm 
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Faye wrote:
The Advent has a built in bluetooth, but I don't know if that's functional with OS X.
Faye


Bluetooth works on my Advent Leopard. :)

However by not following the instructions on this thread correctly I have blown up the Synaptics trackpad & keyboard. I've got a mouse and onscreen keyboard but if anyone has a copy of the relevant Synaptics driver I'd appreciate an upload, so that I can get it working again.

Yes, I did back up "/System/Library/Extensions/ApplePS2Controller.kext" but the backup got overwritten somehow. I presume that's the file I need.


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